like 46% of women between 16 and 24 despise sexual contact. and 25% of the guys in that same age despise-- despise, like, that is an aggressive word. that's-- that's like you see breasts and it's like, "get it away!" >> jon: why do you think that is? >> there's a lot of things, but it seems like there's this weird gender dynamics in japan. and we talked to this woman who does a lot of studies there about the whole situation there, and they don't really know. but, you know, it's a big worry and the government is, like, investing money in trying to get people to kind of start dating and socializing more because people are kind of checking out. i asked them, "what about online dating? like, that could be a thing." one issue is the idea of a herborvor man, a shy guy not as interested in women, more interested in other things. and that will be perfect, like an online dating thing. and they're like, "no it, doesn't work here as well."